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and north north carolina. florida. that's a formula politics, as you know, you want to grow. you don't want to do things that shrink. that's an area that is incumbent on the president to give a framework. i say this as a democrat. democrats shouldn't just talk about this issue as we're better than republicans. i mean, democrats need to be very affirmative about how important the latino population is to our country. they did great things day in an day out. they're a great part of our future, and it has to be more than hey we're better than the republicans. this is a very important constituency and we need to do right by them. >> gavin: what about gay marriage. there are some final counts in washington state but the three states--two states affirmative and the one that pulled back in minnesota some draconian legislation. what is your sense of that. you were in the thick of it, this was toxic even within our own party. >> look, you have been one of the singular leaders on this and demonstrated courage on this issue, so i imagine for someone like yourself this is great to see. >> i'm not going
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